Need Help On Making My Ultimate Machine

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  1. -=DaRKSTaR=-

    -=DaRKSTaR=- Senior Member

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    WAZAAAAAAAAAA

    Anyways I have to giv my first built PC to my bro and have to make another one but even better than before ...

    Im thinking of these parts atm

    AMD PROCESSORS ONLY - No intel they just dont impress me [changed] in my opinion

    AMD X2 4400 Skt939 - £146 = $273.188 US Dollar
    AMD X2 4600 Skt939 - £166 = $310.611 US Dollar
    AMD X2 4800 Skt939 - £190 = $355.519 US Dollar

    Leaning towards the 4800 atm - Seen benchmarks and seems to have some extreme performance capabilities - But Anyways need review on those 3 AMD proc.

    No AM2 processors too expensive for my liking

    Graphics Cards - Only Nvidia & SLI enabled

    7900GT or 7900GTX or maybe lower than these

    Theres a gap between prices as 7900GTX costs like £315 = $589.412 US Dollar and the 7900GT like £215 = $402.297 US Dollar

    Also,

    Other things that I need some light shining over :

    ASUS Motherboard - Want a decent one that has decent capabilties - The ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe version was superb and want a suitable counterpart for the AMDX2 Proc. like so

    2GB DDR400 RAM - Probably Corsair or OCZ not sure atm

    PSU - Need some reviews on this one - What kind of PSU around 600W mark? SLI enabled? etc etc

    Need some detailed info please :)

    I got enough money I hope to spend on like a £800 machine which is around $1,496.92 US Dollar at the current rate - I could add a bit more ;) Depends

    Prices converted to US$ because most people from US and can compare between each other as I live in UK the prices have been taken from where I ordered my parts previously [MicroDirect]

    Thanks and calling out the PC Geniuses I know [Defuzion , XMasterX and Xelink] B)

    - DarkStar
     
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    Blooper008 Well-Known Member

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    You might say intel is crap, but at the moment, it is not. Same goes for ATi.
    If you still want AMD, i'd say grab a AM2 Asus or DFI motherboard, 2gb ddr2 800 ram. ATi 1900xt, best bang/buck, if you cannot wait for RD600. I'll continue on it later.
     
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    Personally I would never use Intel - I just dont like their cores - I am not saying its a crap piece of CPU because it takes plenty of time and effort into making a CPU but just use to AMD i guess :D

    Same goes for ATI - Dont like it since Nvidia been my main choice for years and wouldnt like to change and planning on having SLI, which ATI cards havent got

    About the AM2 - Im not sure about that because the proc. for those are expensive and just keeping to the Skt939 for the time being :)

    O BTW - I am NOT going to OC just plainly because parts might die due to something so keeping it in normal shape :)

    Thanks for the reply anyways

    - DarkStar
     
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    Yea try reconsidering the whole Intel is crap thing, Intel chips currently are better than the Latest AMD's from what Ive heard, but if thats your preference, thats ok....
     
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    Correct, ATi hasn't got SLi but it has got something which is better; crossfire...

    anyway, i'm sure you want to upgrade later, so i'd still suggest get AM2.
     
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    Any info on crossfire sounds cool - lolz :D

    Ye im not going to build a PC now but in like a few months time so Ill look into AM2 :)

    - DarkStar
     
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    Was feeling lazy :D

    From what im seeing ...

    ATi CF seems quite superior and put me back onto the spot where I have to choose between them

    I dont want to be in a spot where I changed to ATi and not performing the way I want :)

    But this CF is impressing me quite a bit :D Need to check prices on these and from that site performance wise - seems awesome - Now just need someone who has used Nvidia SLI and ATi Crossfire cards to see the difference

    Will update ASAP :D Thanks Devastation for shedding light on CF - lolz

    Looking at this atm http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Sp...ArticleId=14474

    The setup above is what Looks like what im after - Kind of but without the 10K RPM HD - I got my 2x7400RPM SATA HD to go in

    ANd improvement on the CPU - Not sure about the mobo though - Rsearching that if its any good

    Unless someone sheds more light from the heavens-lol

    - DarkStar
     
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    Well, for now, there is actually no point buying crossfire, RD600 will outperform 2 1900xt in crossfire. You'd rather buy a cheap card now and wait for it, but if you cant, one 1900xt will be sufficient enough.
     
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    I swear to god, if you weren't a Mod, I would minus rep you like twelve times.

    AM-2 is too expensive? There processors are nearly the same EXACT price. How could you even think of Socket 939?!? 1) It's nearly dead (or at least should be) and 2) it doesn't support DDR2.

    Hmm, nVidia 7900GT, or an ATi x1900xtx. There really isn't a tough choice here. ATi's overclock better, can run AA and AS at the same time, and are just better.

    It really is a no brainer when coming to processors. Considering the 4800+ is probably 50%-100% more expensive then the Core 2 Duo E'6300, and offers nearly 50% less preformance, this doesn't take a rocket scienctist to figure this out.

    What do you mean you "wouldn't be used to intel/ati", they do the SAME ----ING THING as amd / nvidia; just better at it. Another thing, some hardware parts were CREATED to OVERCLOCK! The E'6300 can be raised to 2.6Ghz (from 1.86Ghz) while keeping the temperatures under 50C (I wish I could see the same, my pentium d on stock hasn't seen >50C in its life.)

    I'm sorry bud, but your arrogance is kind of annoying. I'm just trying to help, but this kind of stuff pisses me off.
     
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    Well ye the RD600 could outperform 2 1900xt - But think of it cost wise - Buying like a £250 board isnt cost-effective and in this generation PC parts prices are decreasing by the minute

    Well I dont want to have everything new as in off the shelf first day - Thats like spending £100s on brand-new pair of trainers

    Basically what im looking at would it to be wise buying say crossfire cards on a crossfire board as shown above for playing high-res games like BF2, Oblivion and other top-GFX res games.

    The X1900XT beats 7900 in any path-lol - Now im seriously thinking of it but its £240 = around $470 but I can probably manage
    http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/sapphi..._gt/default.asp

    - DarkStar
     
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    I'm sorry dude, CS is pointless; it really is. If you go with an x1900xt or x1900xtx, it will be able to play everything that you want. A CS enabled edition of the x1900xt might just cost more, and the board would cost more. The newer radeons (R600) that are coming out, probably won't be compatable with the x1900xt's. Also, I don't know when your buying, but if it doesn't happen until like November, get the geforce 8600/8800.
     
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    It seems like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed

    Dude lower your arrogance and I could care less about -rep - --------Rep me 12times and well you can predict what will happen and its quite injustice because what I wanted help on is stated in first post

    ... but then Devastation has introduced me to it so hes helping the most so far - I didnt even know what RD600 was until he bought it up - Post a link or dont be stupid enough to post in my threads

    So therefore you are not helping in anyway and shouldnt have posted in your tone - If there was something you wanted to say for example 'choose say intel core DUO' then say so - Not trying to cuss the other guy out

    I dont intend to overclock doesnt mean I cant buy the parts - I could OC whenever I have too or if i feel is necessary I dont care if they were made for OC or not

    Improve the spec i posted or post some suitable suggestions bu dont post trash like that when Im no-where near that category

    Btw many members on this board know im not arrogant or Ego-Maniacs as they are called ..

    People like you hijack this thread, help and the cuss the person making the thread and that pisses me right off

    So i dont want to see it or dont post at all

    Even i dont know everything that comes out - Im not that sad looking on the net for new PC parts to buy and their reviews

    I just wanted some suggestions for my new machine - I dont want latest up to date parts - Its pointless

    But anyways thanks for your post after I cooled down-lolz B)

    I am going to build a machine mid-Octoberish when Im at University

    - DarkStar
     
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    It's not pointless, because now that I have kept up to date, I can help make the better choice, like in this example.

    Well, like I said, I didn't want to come on as an asshole, but obviously you have taken notice to me, and now I have you second-guessing your first choice; which is what I was hoping for. If I come in here as a little faire saying "get core 2 duo", you would just ignore it and scroll to devastations' posts.
     
  15. xlink

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    only AMD CPU I can recomend is the x2 3800+ the later steppings overclock very well, there are some peopel getting them to 3.0GHz oin stock voltage. perhaps a 4000+ if you can find one.


    go AM2, and use DDR2 ram, it offers future scaleabiliy.
    should you get DDR2, a lot of peopel are liking the patriot LLK ram or G. SKill HZ, both overclock well with the LLK often hitting close to 900mhz and the LLK often hitting around 1100.

    i don't knwo what to say when it comes to GFX cards, nVidia is schedule to release G80(GeForce 8800) sometime in october./november if I am not mistaken, both of which are DX10 and SM4 compliant. prices WILL drop like a rock when they are released.

    and FYI, blatent fanboyism on your behalf. At this moment Intel has the better CPU(core 2 duo) and in a single GPU solution ATi is in the lead(atleast post pressing autooverclock).
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...hootout_12.html

    all i have to say is there is a reason I sold my opteron setup...

    if you insist on your foolish fanboyism, this is more or less asus' best board at this time on the AM2 line.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131011

    FYI conroe now costs about the same, e6400 goes for a reasonable amount and OCs VERY well.
     

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