Spirits In The Sky!

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  1. Ichigo91

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    Spirits In The Sky!

    Spirit in the SkyOne of the most widely debated topics in science and religion today is the origin of man. Was the Earth created with a big bang? Did man evolve from some slimy creature that crawled out of the water? Was man seeded here by aliens from another galaxy? Or, as set forth in Genesis I, was man created by the hand of God? Many of the neo-UFO groups of today are beginning to promote the idea that alien beings are our forefathers.

    One of these is the Raelian group. Headquartered in Switzerland, they are now spread almost all over the world. They claim to have 70,000 in their fold and growing. The group was founded over 30 years ago by Claude Vorilhon, who later became Rael. Rael claimed to have made contact with extraterrestrials, who told him that they would return someday and honor the group with new status in the world. These aliens claim, according to Rael, that they created mankind. Rael began to build a group to honor and worship them, while awaiting their return, which would occur sometime before the year 2035.

    These are most commonly referred to as UFO cults, the most infamous of which is Heaven's Gate, whose 39 members committed suicide in 1997 in the hope that their souls would catch a ride to the Kingdom of Heaven on a passing spaceship. But Monash University sociology professor Gary Bouma said religions based on UFOs are an "exceedingly tiny fraction" of religious groups.

    Professor Bouma, an expert on religion and society, said they were "one of the absolute fringes of spirituality".

    "It's simply a tiny little group pursuing an esoteric idea. Life has been full of them, they've come and gone," he said.

    "They never stand up against the mainstream, for a whole variety of reasons."

    But since space travel began in the 1950s, the idea of extraterrestrials has taken hold of people's imaginations.

    Films like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and television series like The X-Files have made aliens and UFOs a part of popular culture.

    There is even a predominant image of an alien - a small, grey creature with big, dark eyes.

    And with new technology such as the internet, small groups can have a large and enduring presence.

    The Raelians are one group that has used the internet to become a worldwide phenomenon. They have an international headquarters in Switzerland, and offices all over the world, from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe.

    They claim there are up to 70,000 Raelians worldwide, with about 500 in Australia. A registered non-profit organization, their main aim is "to create peace on Earth".

    The group was founded in 1973 by Rael, a French journalist formerly known as Claude Vorilhon.

    He said he had met extraterrestrials who told him to build an embassy to await their return to Earth.

    He claimed they had created humanity, and would return to elevate them to a higher evolutionary plane sometime before 2035. But members of many groups deny that the word "cult" applies to them, and would prefer to be called religions, if anything.

    This is a complicated idea. The High Court of Australia defines religion as "a complex of beliefs and practices which point to a set of values and an understanding of the meaning of existence". By this definition, most groups with any organized spirituality should be referred to as religions.

    The proliferation of magazines, books, and internet sites on the subjects suggests most groups referred to as "cults" are not just brainwashed followers of charismatic leaders, but diverse groups of people looking for spiritual guidance. The Raelians gained media exposure through their claims to have cloned humans, and they have also weighed into the Intelligent Design debate with their version of the origin of life. Roy Tyrrell is a "guide" with the Raelians - a position which he likens to being a priest.

    He said the Raelians believe "that life . . . was a scientific creation".

    "We believe that beings, whom we call the Elohim (which translates as 'those who come from the sky') came to the planet, and with the synthesis of DNA they were able to create life."

    "They created man after their likeness, so we look like the Elohim," he said.

    UFO Creators

    This theory of the origins of humanity is common in UFO cults and is often referred to as the Ancient Astronaut theory. Its most famous proponent was Erich Von Daniken, whose 1969 book Chariots of the Gods? Was God an Astronaut? was a bestseller.

    Von Daniken argued that aliens were a hidden force behind the history of humankind, responsible for ancient civilizations. He suggests that, once upon a time, there was a war between two worlds, and the defeated race concealed themselves on Earth.

    These astronaut refugees then contacted the "feeble hominids" (our ancestors) and decided to help them.

    So they mated with the hunter-gatherers and produced a superior race of human beings.

    Von Daniken offered proof of his theory in the form of cave drawings that he claimed looked like astronauts, complete with helmets and spacesuits.

    Mr Tyrrell said Von Daniken has "provided evidence of the existence of extraterrestrials doing things on the planet in the past".

    He said this supported the Raelians claim that the Elohim had been here.
     
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    this could easily be a hoax, ya know
     
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    so errr..did dinosours come first ? :D

    sorry i just dont know the topic disscused .:(
     
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    lol I would never take this seriously.
     
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    then how do we know about neanderthals?
     
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    people dig up stuff and find bones, lol :P
     
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    Acid?
     
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    Say wa? :blink:
     
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    Read Zecharia Sitchin. It's very intriguing actually. And about the dinosaurs, a few years back, in about the 80s, some scientists made a model of what a dinosaur would look like presently if it still survived. I'll try and find the photo, but lets just say it's big black eyes and green skin.

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    This is at the Museum in Ottawa (not sure if it is anymore, but i know for a fact it was) Tell me if that scares you just a little.
     
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    This is a interresting post, I wouldn't find it hard to belive in Aliens if someone prooved with good facts that they do exist. But this is a wacko theory! And that Alien photos scare the **** out of me. :D :lol: Not a good theory imo.
     
  12. Ichigo91

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    There is also a therory which Devils from the Bible are Aliens I believe thats true since in the Bible there are alot of Ufos Account and if I am not wrong there was a sentence like this: "I saw Satan Falling From Heaven As Lightning" This could be easily be a Ufo
    And in ezekiels's Wheel there is a discription of what he saw
    I recommend you to read this: http://ufo.whipnet.org/creation/ufo.bible/index.html Very Intresting! :D
     
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    nice idea, but there isn't any proof
     
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    Well this is just for the ppl that believe in God they can look at the way that God, Angels, Satan, Devils are just some sort of Aliens that makes more sense and it says that the Devil can posses you and today there are lots of Alien Abductions and what they are doing is also like possesion, they posses your body
     
  15. [B.C.] uLTIMA

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    Very interesting debate .

    The alien's a bit freaky.
     

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