Bush Gets Owned!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Iron Bonney, Sep 4, 2006.

  1. RikkuFox FTW

    RikkuFox FTW Well-Known Member

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    Okay, PEOPLE READ MY POSTS BEFORE PASSING JUDGEMENTS ON THEM.

    I have already explained, murder CAN BE JUSTIFIED. I never ONCE said OUR freedoms were in danger, I said freedom is worth dieng for...(THE IRAQI'S FREEDOM) our wellfare was in danger, hundreds of people died that day, INNOCENT PEOPLE AT THAT. I am not brainwashed, and that is a narrow minded statement to make, and very ignorant as well.
     
  2. Moltarxx

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQoA4c9WqM

    thats a good music video ^^ :)

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    Yeah its real smart in a debate to call someone an idiot.
    I dont know a lot as a lot of people debating right now. But ill apply my knowledge for now. I wish too learn more, and i want my eyes to be opening to many things. I want to be open-minded about solutions.

    Some people might say that if i dont know much then gtfo. But be debating i learn more about others peoples views and such. So ill do what it takes to enhance my knowledge and be aware of the things happening around me.
     
  3. `avantgarde

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    I didn't say you were an idiot, I asked if you were one. -_- And it's real smart to debate without knowing what the hell you're talking about. O_O
     
  4. Moltarxx

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    Exactly my point. I dont know much, but im open to learning. So ill just examine now. Thanks all for debating with me. Ive learned more than i did yesterday.
     
  5. Iron Bonney

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    you cant play on both sides allying with israel means you are an enemy of every country in the middle east, accept that as a straight fact, so what do you expect but terrorist attacks?

    Do you know what the real solution to stop terrorism is?

    War? defenitly not.

    Instead try to reach out to those terrorists and their cultural backgrounds and give them some respect, I guarantee you the world will be free of terrorism.

    But is that good enough for bush? no its not, he wants to fuel the war as much as possible...He certainly has twisted agenda but I dont want to jump to conclusion, and fyi its not bush who is really the problem its the admisntration/gov. because the next president will probably carry on his same policies... I hope Jeb Bush doesnt run for elecs
     
  6. RikkuFox FTW

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    If you aren't American, you really shouldn't have this...passiontate of an opinion. Either way, we are against most middle eastern countries. Becuase Israel is an ally. They help us, we help them.
     
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    US foreign politics affect the whole world, you should know that..
     
  8. RikkuFox FTW

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    I do, and I understand it, but that is the case no matter the President.
     
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    I agree with this guy. Man he has alot of guts saying this stuff! Very strong words.
     
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    heh, finally somebody had the courage to speak up
     
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    How is war different then murder? If a German soldier ran up to an American soldier and shoots him in the face that is murder; if an American soldier runs up to an Iraqi insurgent and shoots him in the fact that is murder; if an Iraqi insurgent runs up to an American soldier that is murder.

    It's all murder, you essentially start a war knowing people will die...it's a premeditated thing. War is murder.

    You can never justify murder no matter what, it's a sin on your soul wether you like it or not. I also want to hear why it isn't murder.
     
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    Murder is justifiable.

    A man holds a gun to all of your family, and is about to shoot everyone you care about dead. Would killing him to stop him not be justifiable?


    Also, War is technically not murder. Murder has to be under some form of breaking the law, and since killing someone in a war isn't illegal, i'd say that makes 2 for 2.
     
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    I'm not saying don't shoot the guy who is about to kill your family, but it still isn't a justifiable thing. All murder is wrong.


    Just because it isn't illegal doesn't change the fact that it's murder.
     
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    Actually the fact it isnt illegal DOES stop it being murder, it may be killing someone...but it isn't "Murder" in the correct sense of the term.

    And your honestly saying that you should save your family...but..it's wrong to? So what do I do, not murder someone and "Save my soul" but the result is the family die or murder someone and save my family. Either way can be classed as murder, but the latter is HIGHLY justifiable and is the only right thing to do.
     

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