any radeon with the SE on it is not a good card for gaming they used the old hardware as in 8500 series and upped the clock speeds.thats why they are so cheap in order of preformance of atis side is ATI Radeon 9200 SE ATI Radeon 9200 and so on til u get to pro versions then its ATI Radeon 9800 SE-cheapest card low clock speeds ATI Radeon 9800-slightly faster clock ATI Radeon 9800 pro- higher gpu and ram speed ATI Radeon 9800XT -higher gpu,dual ramdacs,faster ram thats why the SE is cheap and the XT is the highest you really pay for what you get. check out www.tomshardware.com for more video card specs