Intel Or Amd

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  1. Icex2

    Icex2 Well-Known Member

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    when you say its based off am2, do you mean its for it?
     
  2. Merge

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    AMD ftw tbh!
     
  3. Gravewalker

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    but jus how the ---- is 3.0 ghz amd better than 3.2 the 3.2 is obviously faster...
     
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    AMD beats the ---- out of P4. And let me tell you that GHZ means NOTHING. An 3.0 GHZ AMD outperforms an 3.3 P4. It's all about the pipelines.

    The P4 pipelines are much longer than AMD pipelines and it gets tasks done much slower and therefore the higher operating speed.
    AMD processers have very short pipelines that get work done very fast and efficiently.

    There was a video about this but I can't find it right now.

    AMD beats the ---- of out P4 in gaming and performance but P4 is better for media encoding.

    Remember GHZ means nothing really. ;)
     
  5. Gravewalker

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    How much does a good amd mobo go for? can i swap it?
     
  6. johndapunk FTW

    johndapunk FTW Senior Member

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    Since Xelink isn't here, I'll give my shot to fill in. Obviously most of you don't know what your talking about.

    GigaHertz does not mean anything anymore. Well, yes, kind of it does, but not as much. The Pentium 4's blow because of their long pipelines, which can be fixed (to some extent) by adding more L1-2-&3 Cache, but even still, cache misses (cases in which the processor looks for something in the cache and cant find it) happen a lot. Longer pipelines allow for much higher clock speeds (Ghz for some of your noobs), and would end up catching up in the long run, but when a cache miss happens, or other event, it will empty the whole pipeline. As you can imagine, it takes longer for a LONG pipeline to catch up, compared to a SHORT pipeline.

    Although Intel processors can be overclocked to a much higher clock, it does come with consequences. Everyone knows that the Pentium D 805 can be overclocked to around 4.0 Ghz (would beet an Athlon x2 in a number of things) its heat disapasion is ENORMOUS. Some have been found at using nearly 250 watts of power, whilist the Athlon x2's would still be challenging the Pentium D 805 @ 4.0 at a mear 80 watts.

    I'll add more to this when I see more noobs still wondering why Ghz doesn't matter.

    Btw, master, it's K8L*** :P and yes, that is based on the AM-2 Socket.
     
  7. BTK

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    look up it's kind of what i said ;)
     
  8. Icex2

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    will the k8l outperform conroe once it comes out??
     
  9. williamorc

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    as said in the first few posts and amd is better because at the current moment it out preforms an intel, cooler tempertures and the energy use fluxates, where the intel runs at a constante speed the amd goes up and down to what you need
     
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    K8l, my mistake..

    well, until July 27th, AMDs are the top, because the can be clocked higher while still using stock voltage.

    As John said above, GHZ does not matter anymore. Since the days that AMD changed to the 2800, 3000, etc. numbers, It never fully matched Intel's GHz numbering system. Also the AMD pipelines played most of the game, along with cooler running temps, and faster processing.

    (my expertise in this is minimum, Xelink will tell you more..)
     
  11. johndapunk FTW

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    im assuming you are refering to AMD's Cool N Quiet? Google 'Intel Speed Step'.
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    AMDs athlon x2s win at multitasking now too..

    can't deny conroe claim though...
     
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    AMD>Pentium @gaming

    but Pentium its coming out with a new processor way better than AMD FX2,and also way cheaper,so if u are/were going to buy AMD,I'd say wait for the new Pentium to come out B)
     
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    it isn't called a pentium, it is codenamed "conroe" and called "Coe 2"

    at this moment, I can say honestly that there is no pentium which can compare to an athlon in terms of raw performance.

    and to the gu thinking of replacing his 3+GHz p4, don't bother, your CPU is fine for the moment, it isn't holding you back really. That thie thing with CPUs, they are either good enough or they aren't.
     
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