New Budget Gaming Computer

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by PointZero125, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. PointZero125

    PointZero125 Well-Known Member

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    COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WWC Black/Silver Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16811119078


    BIOSTAR TForce 6100 AM2 Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16813138027


    DIAMOND X800GTO256SB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16814103172


    AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Windsor 2000MHz HT Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA3800IAA5CU - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16819103735

    ePOWER Puma II EP-450XP-P2B ATX12V 450W Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16817101513


    RAM: not sure yet

    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16822144701

    LITE-ON 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black ATAPI/E-IDE Model SHW160P6S04 - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16827106013


    LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model SHD-16P1S - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16827106028


    Total w/out shipping and tax: $741.45 w/out ram - $50 rebate on video card = $691.45

    Probably won't be getting this for another 3 weeks, because apparently AMD is going to lower their prices up to 50% when Intel releases their Core Duo on the 24th. Any comments/suggestions to make it better would be nice. Please try not to raise the price too much. I'm on a pretty strict budget for now.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    That'll come to close to or over $1000. Not exactly budget in my eyes, however, it IS a gaming computer...

    Motherboard and processor are INCOMPATIBLE, look at the sockets, and try again ;)

    You need a PSU over 475 watts for gaming, I suggest getting a better heatsink if you are going to be overclocking, and for ram, get OCZ Gold Edition, built in heatspreaders...

    Thats all I can see, but I'm sure Master and Defusion will rape me...

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    Addition - Get Zalman water cooling if you're overclocking...
     
  3. PointZero125

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    Hmm, yeah, maybe i'll try this instead...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813131569

    I'll need to get PC3200 instead of that DDR2 Ram instead, though... Will that significantly decrease the speed?

    Any other suggestions as far as mobos?
     
  4. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    3 weeks ehh...

    go for conroe if at all possible, the 1.8GHz model of Core2 is compareable to the x2 4200+ through 4800+ in terms of performance
    spend 40$ more and get the 250GB cavier harddrive if you plan it to last 3 yers, yet alone a month, steam games add up fast...
    try for OCZ value ram or g.Skill value ram, can't provide a link temporary system I'm on is utter ---- too time intensive(either that or I can't stand the harddrive clicking)
    PSU is utter ----, might suffice though... no OCing that's for sure
    GFX card won't last 3 years, in a few months the x1900XTXs replacement is coming... drop to the x800GTO and save some cash towards the next card

    also drop the 2nd optical drive


    you don't need insane cooling if you're reasonable wih the voltage, as in you don' raise it much if at all... I OCed my system just fine on the stock cooler... in fact I probably could have pushed it around 300mhz higher if the board wasn't the limiter(I don't raise chipset voltage, just a personal thing)

    also, what's so great about heatspreaders on the ram? It's debateable as to whether or not they in reality drive temps up, also you might be surprised, CPU clock speed affects overall performance moreso than ram spec(to a certain point) at his budget value ram on a divider is fine. on HTT systems running a divider doesn't even really hit performance at all. Can't say the same thing for an FSB system, but ohh well whats 2 or 3 % if you can't notice it outside a benchmark..
     
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    LITE-ON 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black ATAPI/E-IDE Model SHW160P6S04 - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16827106013

    Drop this?
     
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    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    for vid cards, the x800GTO is really cheap for what you get. it won't max out everything, but will suffice for a moderate time. it's about 2/3rds the cost of the XT. and should hit about 70-80% of it's performance give or take. a while back the XT was on sale though for 20$ less and I would have recomended it in that case. (this is my analysis of nvidia vs. ATi, ATi has the better card/architecture but Nvidia has more market power and more things are optimized for it. Pre overclocking nvidia's cards tend to come in strong, post overclocking ATi wins... also ATi seems to have better pricing, though that teeters back and forth. ATi has shid drivers on linux, on a linux box, go nvidia if you plan to game under linux) again, video cards are outdated faster than anything else.

    for PSUs, I have to recomend what Defuzion has adamently noted, Tagan's 500W Puma PSU, it's moderately pricey at 46.50$(correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't checked newegg for a while), but for the cost is excellent, it provides the same amperage to the 12V rail that the 600W model does(the 12V rail powers the CPU, GFX card and a few other things) so it's quite good.

    the lowend conroe chip is expected to be $209 retail(if I'm not mistaken). I expect short supply and or price gouging, so see if you can get one at an acceptable price fast and jump on it.


    now the very fact that I have prices of products memorized, even unreleased ones... that's a bad thing...


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    Lets make it blunt.
    Processor socket = AM2
    Mobo Socket must be AM2!!!
     
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    Also the RAM wont work, you need DDR2 RAM.
     
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    He did have DDR2, he must have changed it...
     
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    Yeah, I did, and I changed the mobo too, it's just that the link didn't change. I changed it to socket 939, lol... I'll be back in about 30 mins and then update my list with everyone's suggestions and see what everyone thinks.

    Thanks again for all the help!
     
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    Woah you got like over $1000 of gear there. :eek:

    That will be a sweet rig.
     
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    Hehe, yeah but i'm going to have to bring it down a little bit.

    Any suggestions on a case?
     
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    OK, I have a few more and hopefully final questions:

    1) Is this power supply good enough do you guys think? http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16817182009
    (xelink i couldn't find that 500W tagan's on newegg... i think there was one but over $100)

    2) I still don't know which video card to get.. the x800GTO seemed to be nearly the same price as the x850XT.. Any more suggestions?

    3) Is this case any good? http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?...N82E16811119068

    4) Should I get a SATA or IDE/ATA133 drive? Why?

    That's all for now.
    Thanks for all the help once again :D .
     
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    1) Fine
    2) Not sure aint looked
    3) Case looks good
    4) Don't know which is better. :rolleyes:



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    x800 looks good just checked it out.
     

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