Suggestions For A Good Desktop

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  1. longhornfreak

    longhornfreak Well-Known Member

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    well i got a

    radeon 9250 (not the best but gets the job done)

    an awsome Creative sound card (forgot the name)

    Creative Speaker Set-UP

    23" LCD Monitor

    Gel Cooling Systems

    Comp Case W/ Neon Lights

    ... all the good stuff



    i just want a good stock computer that i will add the things i have on..


    Basicly a comp with something around

    200GB Hard Drive
    1GB Ram
    2 GHz Proccessor

    ^^^thats all im worried about realy, i saw something at comp usa, everything i want just 512 RAM, which is one of the main things i needed was 1GB
     
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    Jimbo Well-Known Member

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    Here on the build I did, just switch the Ram and HDD with the ones John picked (mine were incompatable >.<) and my build is done. I picked the Pentium D over the Athlon 64 3000 because its dual core and it overclocks pretty well on the stock fan.
     
  3. johndapunk FTW

    johndapunk FTW Senior Member

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    Yeah, his is a pretty good build since you dont need the case. Just wait for Core 2 Duo to come out, that will probably drop the prices of the pentium d's even more and oyu could probably step up to the pentium d 820. (or just upgrade your cpu + mobo + RAM and get a core 2 duo, which is what i personally would do.) so just yeah... wait for teh new ---- :)

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    But if you can, also get a new vid card. i got an ATi Radeon 9500 and i wish i had a new one, i can only imagine you...
     
  4. xelinkstempaccount

    xelinkstempaccount Well-Known Member

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    my suggestion, given your pricing you are somewhat limited in options, definately look into overclocking. I personally have a hard time making a recomendation here, struggling with recomending the Pentium D (which doesn't game as well but is dual core leaving you with some options) if you don't plan on too much look into this(if you can't wait for conroe)

    sempron 64 3000+(overclock it a lot) 77$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819104305

    2GB DDR800sdRAM 187$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227089

    motherboard 83$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813138026
    futureproofability... not there... excellent currentday gaming performance- there...

    PSU $46.50
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingRe...N82E16817101513
     
  5. johndapunk FTW

    johndapunk FTW Senior Member

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    i dont want to discount against the sempron, but he could still back down the ram a little and get a core 2 duo. but i see your reasoning with your choices. you are just figuring that w/e cpu he gets, will just be obsolete anyway, so why not get a cheap AM2 now and get a better cpu for K8L.
     
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    any good stock comps i've only found 2 :/
     
  7. xelinkstempaccount

    xelinkstempaccount Well-Known Member

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    is your 9250 agp or pci?

    if it's AGP, you'de likely want a new card(so you can get a motherboard with PCI-e as an expansion) which you could get for relatively cheaply around 50$ for a better performing albiet low-mid end.


    also, clock speed on the processor is almost irrelevent, unless comparing two of the same processors. For example a 3.8GHz Prescott Core Pentium 4 will rape a 2.0GHz Prescott p4, but a 3.0GHz Opteron will rape such said 3.8GHz p4,
     
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    It all depends on the core itself, not the speed :) And no, dont get stock comps, just wait till conroe is out, and we'll help you.
     
  9. longhornfreak

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    well i found a good stock comp,

    its 700$ which is over my limit, but it comes with a 21" monitor

    3.4 GHz
    250 GB Hard drive
    2GB ram
     
  10. xelinkstempaccount

    xelinkstempaccount Well-Known Member

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    p4s aren't that great for gaming, the proecessor is primarily used for physics calculations which p4s suck at...


    also what the ---- is the significance of a GHz, how is that relevent to anything, I couldn't give a dman what the clock speed, how many pipelines, how much cache, speed and latency of the cache, system bandwidth, IPC... those all play a hugeass factor as compared to MHz...

    don't beleive me... this video is alittle dated but it illustrates the point
    http://pulsar.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/gra...z_myth_320f.mov

    note how they don't include the 1.4GHz Athlon with 10 pipline stages... it essentially rapes the g4, heh...
     
  11. johndapunk FTW

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    how old is that?
     
  12. xelinkstempaccount

    xelinkstempaccount Well-Known Member

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    how relevant is it? he said he wanted a good gaming rig, and currently the best gaming processors are the Celeron Ds, Pentium Ds, Semprons, Athlon 64s, and the Core Solos/Duos, of which the highest only hits 3.0Ghz(if you count an opteron as an a64)


    that is more or less everything EXCEPT the Pentium 4/Ds

    you essentially need a 4-5GHz Pentium 4 to compete with a 2.6GHz athlon or Pentium M in a gaming enviroment.
     

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