Our Corrupt Government

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  1. xlink

    xlink GR's Tech Enthusiast

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    I think someone has been reading too much bull----

    "OMFG BUSH IS SATAN AND CLINTON ROCKED EBCAUSE HE GOT HEAD AND LIED UNDER OATH, AND THE STOCK MARKET CRASHW HICH OCCURED AT THE END OF HIS REIGN WAS NICE NOT TO MENTION THE RISING UNNEMPLOYMENT, AND LOWERED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY..."
     
  2. SomeThingCreepy

    SomeThingCreepy Well-Known Member

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    I apologize for not putting up any sources, I actually intended you all to do your own investigations, hence why i said that you should open up your mind, and just not take my word for granted.

    And about FDR knowing about the attacks, here are some few websites that a simple google got me
    http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pearl_harbor.htm

    About the CIA training the Mujahadeen (Al Qaeda)
    http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_arti...99a1f540d6af825
    http://www.rotten.com/library/history/terr...tions/al-qaeda/
    http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_arti...d3136c87d457910
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/alqaedagenenis09jul05.shtml


    As to my other sources, I will put up later, because I have to leave for school now.

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    But, it was not falling in air. There were thousands of steel frames that would have had to snap INSTANTLY all at the exact same precise moment. This makes it extremely unrealistic. Remember how the building tilt a good 23 degrees off center? That means it's center of gravity was OFF CENTER to the base that was still supporting it. This is exactly the reason as to how the whole building would not collapse STRAIGHT down.

    Take a wooden stick building, pull out a few sticks from a side. What happens? IT TILTS then falls. It would use the same principle, fall on it's side, and NOT straight down.
    I have given you some, but I really have to go to school now. I'll finish it off later today.
     
  3. Rufio

    Rufio Well-Known Member

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    I think I would trust .gov sites more than a couple sites that look like they are run by 11 year olds for my sources.

    for all we know these sites are ran by some crazy people over in Russia doing a poor job trying to ruin America. And still, these sites don't show a whole lot of evidence. It is mostly just a whole bunch of insaine theories, like the first post in this thread.
     
  4. Cloacal.Kiss

    Cloacal.Kiss Well-Known Member

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    awesome post, man. very interesting and infortmational.
    I would definately plus rep you if I could.
     
  5. Lt. Crumpet

    Lt. Crumpet Well-Known Member

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    as school is going to start, ill keep this breif.
    YOUR SOURCES HAVE NO CREDIBILITY! comon! rotten.com? that sound like a credible source!
    and asking the people to do the research themselves? as the affirmative behind this argument, it is YOUR job your job to show PROOF.
    find me sources from the BBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CREDIBLE SOURCES.
    and i have to go.

    editing to continue:

    surely if your credible sources have information about this vast government conspiracy, then at least ONE of my aforementioned sources will have SOMETHING to say about it!
    another thing we do in debate is argue cridentials.
    show me credentials.
    show me nationally syndicated news reporters. show me a guy with more PHD's than years employment.

    as the affirmative here, YOU have the burden of proof. as of now, you have failed in this respect.
     
  6. SomeThingCreepy

    SomeThingCreepy Well-Known Member

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    agreed. however, news stations such as NBC, CNN, ABC, FOX, etc...

    have you ever heard of a story that sounds bad to the government?

    How about the bombing of an aspirin factory in Sudan during the Clinton Administration?
    Ever hear about that on FOX?

    How about over 1,000 innocent Iraqis killed by American soldiers in April?

    No?
    Did y ou hear about hte American Soldiers preforming a car bomb in the middle east while living people are on it?? No?

    Why not? MSNBC is owned by a company called Viacom. Viacom gets paid a hefty amount by the U.S. Government.



    As to your question as to why there are no .gov websites saying how they tortured innocent lives?

    Would you want people to see how cruel of an Administration you really are? I did not think so.
     
  7. Jimbo

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    The 1000 soldier thing was caused by Secritarian Violence, you can indirectly link Soldiers to it, but it still does not mean they killed them.
     
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    Secritarian Violence my ass !

    Killing is killing wether you call it secritarian or any other bull---- the US Government feeds you.
     
  9. SomeThingCreepy

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    Clinton had the chance to have Bin Laden's head almost 7 different times during his 2 terms by coutntries in the middle east! but the only head he got was under the desk the whole time
     
  11. ^Gurkins.

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    I don't know what to think but I have my own thoughts on the subject, I have a few theories of my own and the whole pentagon thing is my biggest concern, the fact that it is 100% obvious that it was NOT a plane that hit it and that the fuel and fire from that plane would have burnt for over 10 days at least and have completely crushed the pentagon. And the blast came within the pentagon, not from outside or anything around it.

    But who am I to decide it? I can't prove anything and if anyone was to get some juicy information on the subject they are most likely dead and the info deleted.
     
  12. HydrogeN

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    We all have 3 choices in this matter.

    1. Deal with it.

    2. Elect different politicians.

    3. Leave the USA, flights departing daily.
     
  13. Rufio

    Rufio Well-Known Member

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    true that.
     
  14. Greasy Pete

    Greasy Pete Senior Member

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    all this information is nice,


    but com on. it was how many years ago? 5?

    i think its time to forget

    i sure did a long time ago
     
  15. thestarofdeath

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    Even if he knew about Pearl Habor and wanted a reason to go to war, thats the best thing we could have done. If we didnt go to war, Then GB would have fell, there would be no D-day and no way for us to get back into Europe and since the US wasnt a superpower at the time, We would have been screwed. Germany would have had to take GB and changed the root of the war. Russia and Germany would go into conflict for a while, but without the british pressuring Germany anymore, and the gained resources from conquering GB, Germany would have one the war, then attacked America from the West(Japan) and the East(Germany). Germany would have had the Abomb, hitler probley would have been killed or assasonated and new leadership would kick in, and we wouldnt be able to state our opinions the way we do today.

    Im tired of these bull theorys and incredibly stupid comparisions. Stop trying to make everything look like it was set up, From elections to wars and aliens to assassinations. It happens, the war was really in search of WMDs and the chances are there buried in the dessert, its really not that hard to bury something in a dessert... The war also did have alot to do with oil and profit as most people think, but face it, if you were the president and knew the country was going to war....would you try to make money off it if you had the chance...i would
     

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