Well, If they arn't bothering me, I don't see an issue. Some people can't help it, so why subject them to further problem. If you want to go by that logic, how about we start up segregation again? It's the same thing. When I was born, I was black, thats it! nothing you do is going to change that(no bad micheal jackson jokes please). When your born, theres some chemical imbalance or whatever causing you to like a member of the same sex. The only thing that makes me say that is this. With all the trouble Gays are put through on daily basis, who in thier right mind would wake up one day and decide to be a homosexual! Why subject yourself though that , unless of course, you can't help it?
r u gay EVERYONE sins EVERY day but u can repent for sins and try not to do them anymore. how many gay people r goin to repent for it and completely stop being gay
commitment is not the same in nature and is not nearly so binding as as they cannot have descendents. even if they are committed to eachother, you would still need to redefine marriage. People say Islamic extremists redefine the words fo the Koran. This is no diferent, a viable, well defined social institution is being discgraced. There is no way in anyones right mind that they coudl call any sort of union between two homosexuals a marriage. as for the second part, from a judeo-christian point of view no, from my point of view, no. It's just political suicide to state such though.
Well, I very much disagree with you. But as much as I'd love to continue this debate, I need to be getting to bed. Later all.
1-It's not outdated, it doesn't apply anymore. Some things applied at some times, other things didn't. When Jesus died things changed. We were no longer under the old covenant. This is when we no longer had to perform sacrifices, observe what was clean/unclean, and stuff like that. However, some things did carry over. The ten commandments for one, as they are pretty much the basis of Christian morals. So it's not really things change over time to fit into culture, it's that events happen that make some things not necessary anymore. This is why using commentaries when you read the bilbe is very important. You can grasp basics without 'em, but if you really want to know what the author was trying to say, you have to have background and context. Really, it's kind of hard to relate to this when it's written 2,000+ years ago. Some words you think you know you don't, and some words you just kinda go "what?" 2- I am a Christian am persecuted almost every day for some reason or another. Sometimes it's on a forum (it used to happen daily on DDRFreak.com), sometimes at school, sometimes on a random episode of tv I'm watching. Really I don't think I've seen one episode of the Simpsons yet that didn't in some way make fun of Christianity in some way. But I guess at least the Simpsons is an equal oppurtunity persecutor. Myself, I don't think that it's as big of a deal as with some things, but being a Christian I do get a lot of crap thrown at me. 3- Your point on Avril Lavigne is very valid... I'm glad we agree on a few things. 4- I at points have thought that abuse is a legit reason for a divorce. Since I've decided that the only time divorce is exceptable is in cases of adultery. In the case of abuse, a seperation is in order. I know one person who joined the military to get away from a bad relationship. Their counterpart went through counseling while they were away and as of now they're on good ground. That's not to say that every abusive relationship will turn out like this, but you have to at least give it a try. Adultery is a breech in the relatioship. A person who comitts adultery breaks off the contract. And still people should try to work it out. But I take those vows seriously. If you say "Till death do us part." Then you ain't parting until death. This is also one of the reasons I feel very strongly about pre-maridal sex being wrong. Sex is a comittment to one person. A very fun, exciting, hot, sweaty comittment. Anyone who denies that has something very wrong with them . EDIT: 1- BEING ABLE TO REPENT FOR SIN DOES NOT MAKE IT OK TO SIN!!! Please if your going to use theology in this debate don't say something like this. It's not true. It's wrong to sin. Yes we can be forgiven for what we do that's wrong, but that doesn't make it ok to do it in the first place. 2- The question "Why would someone decide to be gay when they know it will bring them crap!" has been brought up multiple times. Honestly, to tell you the truth, to; a- satisfy feelings and emotion they have which they may or may not be misinterpereting (though I believe they probably are). b- to get sex. People will do crazy things for sex. And money. Ever heard of gay for pay? Most digusting thing I've ever heard of. Those people (straight guys) have gay sex (see: sex withother guys) simply to earn a little cash. NOt quite the same thing... but just something I thought I'd bring up. Something that disgusts me... and I don't see how anyone, no matter how desperate, could do that... sorry... for the rant... gay for pay just makes me cringe and go off on tangents.
people can give up sins and repent for ever doing them. i'm not saying that it makes it ok to sin, i'm saying that being gay isn't something that most gay people would give up.
I don't believe in sinning. The reason murdering for example is a "sin" is because when you kill someone you feel terribly guilty and anguished. I think they just named that feeling "sin". Christianity is kinda dodgy to me. You can do all this bad ---- then go "repent" and get better. It says treat others as you would want them to treat you yet it hates homosexuals. Got sense?
I understand when people do go into others buisness to help make their lives easier such as a person that joins red cross to go and help other people. But do you think going into someone elses buisness to make their life miserable is really what god wants you to do?
I think it should be no problem. As like it's now; its kinda racisme. (in America), not gays can marry right away, but gays can't? To me that just sounds like ----.
I honestly don't care, it's pretty discusting though, I wonder what caused gay marriges.. Is it that guys can't get girls so they just start to love guys, or is it different?
Scientists already investigated this, and they stated that in the earlier years there were also gays, but then they couldn't express theirself because they would be beaten up.
no, women require too much and bitch too much and complain saying, "not right now" or "im not in the mood tonight". ITS YOUR FAULT GAYS ARE AROUND LADIES! HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? lol j/k you know i love you ladies even if i want to strangle you sometimes...
