Is Rap And R&b Smart?

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  1. beatsta

    beatsta Well-Known Member

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    Lets see. I asked a simple question about wether he thinks all metal is good as he seemed to be stereotyping all rap as bad when only a small majority of it is. I never once said i considered metal as a bad influence as i respect it as a form of music.
    Anyway if you want to get onto rap having meaning then ill give a few examples:

    Immortal Technique - Cause of death

    immortal Technique - 4th Branch
    Very political motivated song, certainley more inteligent than the majority of mainstream rap.

    Eric B. & Rakim - Teach the children
    Talks about war, crime, the government and the contrast between rich and poor.

    Nas - Revolutionary Warfare
    Focuses on war and the effects it causes

    Nas - One mic
    Powerfull song.

    Nas - New world
    Talks about the future and how the worlds becomming.

    Eric B and Rakim - Casualties of War
    VERY political song about war, i don't see no talk of sex or drugs here. O wait maybe all rap isn't like that.

    Nas - Ghetto Prisoners
    Talks about life in the ghetto and the hardships of poor people.

    Tupac - Keep ya head up
    Rappers hate women

    Canibus - Channel Zero
    Seems rap is more than drugs, sex and drive bys.

    Canibus - Horsemen
    'The government assigned sentinals for Horsemen elimination
    Claimin we were mutants of artificial insemenation'
    Raps dumb

    Rakim - In The Ghetto
    Story telling through rap.

    Hell even some mainstream rappers talk about more important issues.
    Eminem - We as americans
    Kanye West - Jesus walks
    Talib kweli - Ghetto Snow
    Talib kweli - Beutiful Struggle
    Talib kweli - Africa Dream

    I could also list some tribe called quest, JMT, Mf Doom, common and others.

    There are hundreds of rappers that could be listed that rap about important issues. The thing is
    THEY DON'T MAKE IT TO MTV SO YOU NEVER SEE OR HEAR THEM

    'Dumb' hip hop apeals to the majority and sells to them so that is what is known best.
     
  2. Hass

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    anything on tv is retarded

    TV MUSIC-
    This is The Product of filtered down music with a catchy tune that stays in your head
     
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    Beatsta, you stereotyped saying metal is bad just as much as he stereotyped rap being stupid. I never said all rap is retarded, i said MOST rap is, and thats only accounting for mainstream as its all i will listen to as far as rap. Unlike rock/metal where i get into underground bands that no one really knows about, etc.
     
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    i find also to be boring....there talking over a beat meaning it isent music
     
  5. King Of Sycoz

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    Certain people like certain things.....
    i cant stand rock...but i love rap...and r&b.....soooo.....
    its kind of your backround and the things you like soo.....
    yeah...
    LoL
    -King-
     
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    yes, rap is very fun indeed.
    shooting up clubs, ----ing hoes, selling drugs, fun ---- i might just do it for a birthday party.

    main stream = teh sux
    underground/oldschool (pac, krs, PE, nwa - even though most of nwas songs fit the rap stereotype i still loved their sound and beats) = teh tyet shzel as my homies in the bronx call it.
     
  7. T.D GFX

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    Most Of The 'Mainstream' Rap Is Dumb....Underground Stuff Like Tonedeff, Big Pun, Jedi Mind Tricks Is More Complex Or 'Smart'....
     
  8. beatsta

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    http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...=utf-8&oe=utf-8
    Ok stfu up now.
    And i never said anything about metal i asked a simple question.
     
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    Great point, I've been listening to Jedi Mind for a while.
    Check Blackalicious, its pretty much the best lyrics you are going to find (in my opinion). I would describe it as lyrical poetry set to great beats.
     
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    but there talking over beats and that isent music am i right?
     
  11. HOOD PROPHET

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    ok they dont just speak if it was the easy wouldnt you everyone would be doing it anyway all metal is just screaming down a mic.
    SO your saying speaking to beat is stupid, so poetry is stupid aswell then?
     
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    Dont believe or follow things you see on TV, really its a matter of opinion, i hate rock/metal because its just depressing and boring, with rap you can take in the lyrics and stuff if you get me.
    Most mainstream rap does suck, i like stuff like tech n9ne, immortal technique, necro, that sort of stuff, stuff thats NOT mainstream. people see one thing on tv, and it puts them off it.
     
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    But screaming over a guitar is? That doesn't make much sense...it's also pretty hypocritical to say rap isn't smart, when you can't spell correctly or use proper grammar.
     
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    x Hustler x - OWNED!! nice one
     
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    haha i'm in love wit a stripper- t-pian and mike jones!!! what i song

    laffy taffy - afroman what a ace song! :P


    i know you think there a bit stupid but not all song from every arist are going to be serious :P

    listen to there over song!
     

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