Ok.. heres the deal. I'm looking to upgrade my cpu because the one I bought for this pc was listed as having an 800fsb and infact only has a 533fsb. Also I heard good things about the 2mb cache cpu's. I really need an upgrade for my video card also. My current Vid card is a geForce2 which was top of the line back when i bought it. I wanted to show you guy's what I'm thinking of buying and get your opinions and suggestions. cpu:Link Vid card:Link
I see you ae getting a P4 which isn't bad, but... chances are, you would need a new motherboard when migrating up your older proc. In this case it would be wisest to get a whole new proc/ motherboard and for gaming I wouold have to suggest an athlon 64, this would also leave you open for future dualc ore upgrades since intel is officially disowning the P4s and have plans for a complete core duo lineup, even a 3.3Ghz core duo this time, so consider the P4s obsolete in terms of upgrades. if you did want a net burst proc and are willing to accept the performance hit for gaming and certain graphics application, then be advised that the P4s with 2mb cache have no real advantage over the ones with 1mb in terms of performance because of increased cache latencies. THe only advantage of the 630/1 over the 530 is the inclusion of EMT64. if you went with an athlon then: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103535 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813123264 and get the upgrade tot he GT which is 10$ cheaper after the mail in rebate. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130214 I will admit it is a bit more expensive (30$ moreso), but it offers you greater future scaleability because AMD will continue to support 939 even for a while after aM2 is out and you're running PCI-e insteed of AGP. Plus it runs off less energy. plus youg et a spare P4 and motherboard which you can toss a little ram and a few spare parts in if you ever want a spare comp. What do you have now though? you might want to hold off on swapping the CPU altogether if what you have is good enough.
I seen it mentioned Intel is going to come out with a new line of processers. Is core duo the dual core processers? And if so are you saying that intel will not support or make single core processers anymore? Didn't realize that. The reason I was looking at a P4 is I have just always used intel so I'm familiar with them to a point. I just thought with the increase in bus speed and ghz with the 2mb cache would help. With amd I tend to get a little confused about judging the speed of they're cpu's. If you can explain how I can judge the speed of amd then I may do just what your suggesting. Like with the cpu you linked to.. to me it doesn't look like much of an upgrade considering it says it runs at 2ghz even though the fsb is 1gig. But like I said I have a tough time with judging amd. Also it says the L1 cache is 64kb+64kb and the L2 cache is 512kb.. what does that mean exactly? Would that vid card you suggested really be faster than the one I was looking at even though its pci-e? I noticed it was 128mb or whatever. BTW: I'm running a P4 2.66ghz 533fsb cpu. I also have pc3200(400mhz) memory, 160gig seagate sata hdd.
tha=ey aready make dual core processors, the pentium Ds, Pentium eXtreme editions and the core duos. the pentium Ds and PXE's are greatly outclasses by AMDs athlon X2s. The core Duos more or less perform the same because they are designed with similar architecture. Intel is offically stopping development on the P4 and all similarly designed processors. They will continue to make single core processors(aka the core solo) but those will be for low end processors. Also, what socket is your P4? if it's not 775 you would need a new motherboard. and on another note, your P4 which you currently have could probably last another year before needing to be upgraded, only real way you could justify an upgrade IMO is if you got a core duo or a dual core athlon x2. http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/athlo...x2/index.x?pg=1 as I said, the core duos have fairly similar core architecture and benchmarking puts them very close to the athlon X2s and so far we only have the laptop version of he core duos, the desktop version will be even more powerful, support hyperthreading and EMT64(AKA AMD64) and the like. ALso note the prices for both AMD and Intel have come down since then with the X2 3800+ being a cheap as 290$ In short, your proc is good enough for the time being and will get you by until you can save up for an athlon X2 or the Core Duo(conroe)
My P4 is socket 775 which is why I was looking at that particular cpu in my first post. But if you don't think it's worth it to upgrade to it I'll look into the athlon x2. The vid card kinda has me in a bit of a spot because my mobo only supports agp and everything seems to be moving away from it. My mobo is reasonable in speed, but my vid card is very slow compared to everything else in my system. If i upgrade to an agp card now then later when i upgrade my mobo I'm gonna be out the cash. BTW: what kinda prices am I looking at with the athlon x2's? Edit: just seen the prices on the x2's in the link you gave me.
well AGP isn't completely going away, the 7800GS is out which will leave you with a decent thign to upgrade should AGP hit the dust. and if you were to wait for an athlon X2 or a core duo, then you could get a motherboard which could accomadate your card, or atleast leave you with acceptabel graphics until you can afford another card.
alright listen man, the p4 blows and the 6600 blows, if i were you... id buy the best now because chances are if u got what u said u are getting u will wind up throwing it away in about a year, and im not joking..... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130277 get this for 350, its the mobo and vide vard.. why pay 150 for a crappy video card and another 150 on a mobo when u can spend 350 and get a great mobo and a great video card... also get this processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...82E16819103531R this is just my opinion buty still u will save a lot of money in the long run.....
Ok.. thanx for all your input bro. Really appreciate it. With the cost of this stuff I want to try and make sure I do the right thing so I don't end up wasting a bunch of money on stuff that goes obsolete right after I buy it. I think it's good to get opinions. BTW: If anyone else want's to make suggestions please do.. The more the merrier
you linked him to the 3800, not the x2 3800. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819103562 the x2 3800+ is 200mhz slow than the regular 3800+, but it's dual core meaning you litteraly have twice as many processsors on the same package. also, you have to realize, that by the time that card is obsolete, he could get a 2.4Ghz core duo for 300$ and probably a 2.4Ghz athlon for the same and the price of the 7800 would drop as well so he'd be ahead in the long run waiiting especially since his proc isn't THAT bad. if you want the fastest for the $ NOW though yeah, go with the 3800 and the 7800, but if you can wait you're fine.
