it is every muslim's job to try and make someone the doesnt belive in god , belive in him but anyway , our religion's book is called the "quran" , belive it or not , many things and disasters that happened on earth , were written in the book, the tsunami , the earthquake , it was written litterly there,you wouldnt belive how many things that happened are written in it , and dont say that the quran was written by a normal person , its ben there since hundreds of years , and has the same words
do you think that there are people that are really not afraid of death? or do you think they just pretend it.....
In the other thread i stated i am not afraid of Death. i dont care what happens after i die, since i dont believe anything will happen afterwards, so im not bothered. its the action of being killed that makes me trippy.
i agree with all u guys say..... the only concept that scares me is i wont be able to see/think about/talk to my girlfriend ever again..... its scary now but after death... u wont care cuz how u put it... you simply "aren't"..... nice topic ive never discussed this with strangers.. lol
The Bible has been around about 900 years before the Quran... and the Torah has been around since about 5000 BC or prolly earlier. I bet you if I want to, I could look at anything in the bible and say that it predicted the Tsunami or Earthquake... or anything else... it's all about interpretation...
yeah, interpretation and imagination is basically all it is. Because things posted in these books are often very vague, and you can take them how you want too. Religion is based off of those two things two, so thats why they fit together so well. anyway, i have the most posts of anyone today, with a grandtotal of 121. Ironicly exactly 1/10th of my total posts, so i will probably be leaving shortly. I will disscuss this tommorrow, or later today i guess. Proof:
thought this would be relevant, i just wrote this for my history class Religion is one of the most important institutions to humanity. It offers us security and comfort, and explanions to the unexplainable. Because of our most instilled urges, humans, as an animal, are naturally fearful of death. Being fearful of death is very beneficial to survival, it facilitates natural selection by making everyone fight for something in competition, which of course leads to evolution. However, humans are also capable of intelligent thought. This leads to problems with the previous example. Virtually all animals aren't able to contemplate their death, so they don't really need to come up with reasons why death is okay. The rare exception however are capable of contemplating their own death. Instead of living in fear of our certain end, we have come up with explanations and validations for it. Throughout our history, popular religions have changed. Judeo-Christianism is the longest lasting one. But how different is our religion from others? In my opinion the most critical different between different theologies is how many gods are to be worshipped (polytheism and monotheism). People of modern religions tend to mock older religions such as the Greeks. In fact, the study of Greek gods is commonly called Greek mythology. The frequency that people refute others' religions because of their blind faith to their own is almost laughable. Why is creating the explanation for hell by the consumption of an apple more plausible than a god who throws lightning when angered? When it comes to selfrighteousness, religion unquestionably takes the cake. This is why our book leaves out "other" religions. People in the western hemisphere are so consumed by our ourselves that we fail to see any pros to other religions. Obviously this isn't an all inclusive statement, although for a large percentage of people I believe it's true. So, essentially religions are created to answer what we fear or can't explain. "All men are created equal" is a prime example. Although this statement sounds benign, it really does have implications that are reassuring to people. In animal herds, there is almost always an alpha male, and an omega male. From a calculating standpoint, the alpha is usually larger, faster, and healthier than the omega male. So it could be summarized that the alpha is better than the omega. It's not hurtful to classify a different species in such a fashion, but imagine doing it for humans. Being told that another person is a better genetic specimen than you are would be truly hurtful. To avoid such pain and classifications, a statement such as the one I have described can be inscribed into a religion. My apologies for making this critique so personal, but it's just a topic I feel strongly about. I'm not an atheist, but I don't necessarily believe that religions should be strictly regimented the way they are. Furthermore, one thing that bothers me is when people allow religion to blind intelligence and judgment. I do believe in an 'ubermansche' or a superior being, I'm just not so sure that we should even attempt to classify something we could never comprehend.
Dan and others, you should read the Satanic Bible by Anton Szandor LaVey. There are alot of interesting things written in it about religion. I believe humans created the concept religion as way of explaining things they couldn't understand and to satisfy their ego. "We are the children of [insert deity here], we are special and are so much more than a mere animal!"
I also believe religion to be something to satisfy their ego's, but im not going to read a Satanic Bible.
I only believe religion is there so people can believe in a life after death. Since that is what ALL religions believe in. What they have to do within the religion to get that, is beyond me.
You believe as you wish, and I will as well. It doesn't bother me that you don't believe the same that I do, however, I don't think you should really have an opinion on religion until you completely understand it. It's so much deeper than "this spirit made the universe, and the earth, and humans, so that we could go to earth and be tested, so that we could meet him again?". It's not to be "tested". There is no "test" in Christianity. I am not going to explain it because you've already shown that you don't care to know. If that isn't the case, I'd suggest you read the Bible. This whole "you won't be able to move or think" comment is quite ignorant. This shows, once again, you know nothing about religion or the spiritual world, for that matter. I don't believe in religion because I want satisfaction knowing that life will continue. That is just an ignorant concept that too many athiests have. That's fine if you don't believe in it, but don't think that I do because I'm insecure about myself or that I need some kind of "purpose" in order to feel comfortable with death. Sometimes I actually think I'd like it BETTER if I was to cease to exist after death. Eternity scares me. I can't comprehend it and that just freaks me out to no end. Also, I'd rather not face God and explain my life to Him knowing that I lived in such a way that is a disgrace to His name. I don't believe in religion because I want to believe that there's some kind of after-life. I believe in religion becuase I believe it to be true. I have chosen to believe that there's a Creator. I have chosen to believe the Bible. To me, religion makes sense. Not because it gives my life meaning or "satisfies" me that my life doesn't just end.
i belive in god, don't say on no hes stupid, thats my beilves and i respect yours. the reason being, why would somone make up something like that bible? also whats the loss in beliveing in god? and i belive in the 10 comandments strongly, even if you dont belive in god, i think you should follow them, there not just some religus thing they are gide lines for being a better person. and i also belive in jesus, and i belive he exists today, and i also belive in the anti christ, if you have read/stupid the old testiment you would proberbly understand. thanks for reading, craig. fead back is greatly apreshated.
what really makes me laugh is this thread. You stated what you believe in and said nothing could change your mind so please explain what the reason for this thread is, reading the posts it seems like another "let's bash their god thread"
