Well maybe the matter was always there but eventually acted uopn it self. And I thought that matter can't be lost nor gained it can only changed form. So maybe there was a set amount of matter for our deminsion. Am going compelty off topic sorry. <_<
Yea! Science can't prove that where the first two molecules came from... Thus, there MUST be a creator of this... And if you believe in God, you will have no problem in finding out how they where made...
yes, Im off as well, enjoy, hopefully I will be able to make such a heated debate as this one again tommorow, check back in this forum section tommorow night and see if Ive come up with anything worth considering. Night.
Here's a diagram of cellular respiration: http://zoology.okstate.edu/zoo_lrc/biol111...respiration.gif if one thing in that map was out of order, or omitted, we'd be dead. That's not just pure luck that happened, that everything was in the perfect order, and executed it's function at the perfect time. That's one example, one example in the whole universe.
it depends on how you look at it. The proof for me that God exists is just the earth, and the things on it.
Well you don't know for a fact how big space is. So maybe we got that 1 out of a billon chance. Some one always wins the lottery its just all about luck.
Tomorrow make your debate in the right section. Even though this isn't formally a debate, it has evolved into one.
*coughXBO60VSPS3DEBATEcough* <.<;;; [/b][/quote] Why don't you make it yourself? There is a forum for debates now, so why not go make a topic?
Okay children, here's my theory in everything, it is highly probable, and probably true. I'm going to have to explain everything that is in my theory. Here's on explanation of what black holes are. In the beginning, whenever a super massive star is created, it is super massive. Because of its oober large mass, it has some freakishly strong gravity. Gravity of trillions of Earth's all on one mass. There is so much gravity, that the only thing from keeping the gravity from just crushing it to a uh, very small thing, is the heat going on and the hydrogen and chemicals and all that jazz. But when the sun eventuall runs out of hydrogen, it runs out of engery, and runs out of heat. When the heat and energy goes away, all thats left is a big mass with a ---- load of gravity. Then the super insanely large ammount of gravity compeltely obliterates the star, and squishes it into an area smaller than an atom. BUT, there's still all that mass, just a lot smaller, so it still has a lot of gravity. There's so much gravity, it just sucks in anyhting near it and crushes it, leaving only it's gravity, adding to the size of the black hole. ---Even light has a super small ammount of weight, but since the gravity is so great in the black whole, all light around it is sucked in, therefore making it black. Okay, well now that we have black holes cleared up, we now have the rest. When a black hole is made, it is never broken or dissinigrated or anything. They jsut stay there, forever. Until they suck up anything within googol's of light-years, all the way up until they have sucked up eveyrthing in the universe, and all there is left in the universe is black holes. Then, one is big neough to actuall suck in another black hole, and another, until all that is left, is one super massive black hole, and all the mass in the universe is in a space smaller than a proton. Now, with taht much mass, and that much gravity, things happen that will truely NEVER be explained, or ever heard of. Things get pushed together, so tightly and strong, they cause an explosion big enough to completely restart the universe. When everything explodes, and all the matter is released, it goes out, then enough of it gathers again with more gravity, adn pulls together planets, stars, moons, galaxys, all sorts of crap, therefore starting, the second universe, and the second time. *repeat process* But now, how to explain how it originally got there, the original black hole, the original everything. You can't. You won't. It's all based on faith.
OK i took the time to read all of the posts in this topic, i do agree/disagree with some of these and i do have my own theories on this matter i have thought deeply on this subject for years before i start i would appreciate if you all would read my post even if its long because i took the time to read your opinions also, i would like to say i am christian and believe in god, but i also have my own beliefs, i dont believe in everything in the bible, i find alot of it to be unreasonable and making no sense ill reply to some posts to start off also i apologize for the length of this in scientific theory we didnt just appear here, our existence has been a result of google amounts of years evolving and favorable variations, adapting to our environment earlier species died easier im sure if we lived 1 mile from the sun the billions of years we spent evolving would eventually have use build a tolerance to the heat not everything in the bible is to be taken literally, the bible was not written by god, but by man so how can a man in the time of Jesus, fathom any of the concepts behind the theory of man, how can a man in a time of no technological advancements further than the wheel even grasp the ideas behind what an atom, the big bang or matter??? It was believed by people that a "messiah" would come for freedom from roman oppression (correct me if im wrong) so these stories on heaven and the divine world could possibly be stories to help them cope with the oppression, if roman soldiers of the greatest empire in the world were out to kill you why would you feel a need to keep living? If any of you have ever read Animal Farm by George Orwell, you will find a similar situation with the animals on the farm believing sugarcandy mountain its in human nature to cope with problems we cannot solve, unlike a computer that would just blow up under a problem that it cannot calculate, we have thoughts (although whos to say a computer doesent? after all, your thoughts are only electical signals passed between your brain cells) it is not in any beigns nature to self terminate without a cause He doesent god made us that was his gift to us, we have to appreciate his gift and live our lives so we can go to the divine world and bask in all our glory have you ever played the game sims? this is very similar, god made us in his image "you make ur sim to look like you" (unless your messing around) usually u want that sim to prosper and get rich and be the ultimate mack, its the same thing god wants for us, he wants us to be happy. if god created us in his image we have to think alot dont we? we cannot say where god is from, we cannot say why we are here, and we cannot see infinity, so it is important to have faith and believe and not be afriaid of the path ahead. My Theories i do believe the first post that god created the first atoms and those atoms created us 2. ive always had this thought lingering in the back of my mind, what if planets were cells making up some huge bieng (ill call him tom for now) we could be helping it stay alive, and on the other side ther are other universes making up other people in the same place tom is living in on another planet which ismaking up a planet to make an even bigger bieng this is where infinity comes into play it is a continuum this has been a very very interesting topic, and im glad it didnt turn into a flamewar about religion ive never expessed my thoughts like that before, does it suprise any of you that im only 14? sorry if its way too long but i appreciate it if u took the time to read it (sorry if i went too off topic) maybe i did but i cant tell, its pretty much an ugly blur of words now anyways im out to bed al lthis typing and thinking made me tired, toodles
i dont know whats been brought up in 6 pages, but the beginning wasnt with two particles, it was supposed to be a substance called "pure energy" and we know very little about this force, so it may not even need time or space to exist.... weird? P.S.... i Dont believe in God or Religion at all... but my parents do, so i have to go with that....
