well, I thinik I shall join. I am not framiliar enough with PS to make the layout entirely frp, ot, so I shall have to use the computer I have with with PSP on it sometime later today. BTW. Gradients like you did them tend not to be good for webdesign as the take a longer time to load than traditional, small skinny rows that are set to repeat. Plus, if you go over that amount, then the layout will break.