your right. when i first came to GR. a few months ago. im march/april credits were still jsut to give when you found a nice render. or some free signatures. the ammounts of credits were then more equal. much people are now in depth, several hundreds of credits now. while some people now have then thousands of credits. i just think its stupid to sell credits for real money. i will never do it. why buying credits for real money. if you can earn them? there has been going a lot on GR lately. suddenly the credits were worth nothing, because almost every shop was free. after that, the auctions came in, and massive credits were sold for only 1 psd. or 1 template. its not equal. anymore. maybe i didnt saw it then in april or march. but i see now. also about the popularity. yeah its true, thats why i never battle anymore. i always want to win fair. id rather lose fair then winning by people that only vote on me, because they 1 want something from me. 2 think im great, and want me to like them. 3 vote for me because i have more posts/rep then the other one? its jsut stupid, and so i quitted. its to bad that bratzer and you quitted now. maybe the "system" will go evern further down. and ye. if we only had g70 back. he always knew what to do.
Chill, I'm not saying every rich/popular member is greedy and selfish, I'm just saying the majority I've seen are. You're entitled to an opinion on the credits matter, but don't you think you are a little baised? Thanks anyways. You're right that I should be a mod if I want to help the community, but I can't work with some of them and it was becoming a nightmare working with them. I can make sacrifices and try to become on staff again, but I'm still thinking about that. I wish it was that simple and me and Bratz could become staff and make changes again, but I suppose we have to work for it. I think we can still make a difference being members ... isn't that what it's all about?
Flamesy homie i hate to see you go. I can see were you are coming from but i wish you would have stayed to stick up for the members like me!
I agree with most of what your saying, but i do not agree at your taking shots at my staff. They try very hard at what they are doing just as you did before you left us. Me and Llamaman try our best to keep this forum moving, always in motion the future is. You think we can please 35,000 members in different ways? No we cannot, it's just that credits have become such a major feature of this forum, we cannot just simple say poof, no more credits, hundreds of members would be distraught and just leave straight away. We wouldn't want it to come down to that. BiG_Dave
I haven't been a member very long at all, but I completely agree with you.I never saw what GR was like without credits. When I started out and had no credits, I couldn't get anything rendered very well because I had no creds to give and couldn't rep. But there are some people out there who aren't greedy, like people who put up free PSD packs, or make tutorials and don't charge people to see them. And I think you guys can make a difference as members, but you can make even more of a difference as mods.
As much as i don't like BFTP he does his job really well i don't think he has pulled GR down. [/b][/quote] lets see who started the sellign of credits for money? who abused his powers and gave a certain member like 98+ reps? who bans first and ask questions later? is it llama? dave? hydro? foose? renegade? :huh:
And closes my topics.... But still even if you weigh it i think he isn't a bad ..mod just has alot of favorites
agree with that credit thing I can't be bothered with them don't really care for it im glad the system has stopped people are credit mad in here
Am glad a Ex mod finally says wat we all been thinkin if we sed it no one listen and probly be -rep or spammed for it
I just wish more than anything that Brazter and Flamsey would have staid at there power becuase then we would have 2 great people at mod but you know what Renagade is a really good guy and i know he will be able to step and get it done
Very sensitive topic so Ill try to voice my opinion in my "inside" voice. Credits are currency. Most of us have learned this from growing up in nations were capitalism is king. The enterprising and motivated are rich and the lazy and uninspired are broke. It is hard to fault people for doing what virtually all of the free world does on a daily basis. For most of us, time is money, the most popular members that you speak of are usually the most experienced with graphics or other web based applications and spend hours upon hours every day in this and other forums while creating new material or fine tuning there skills by reading tutorials or improving themselves or there syle in some way. In a way, I would say they deserve there popularity and to some extent I doubt many of them would be popular if they were constantly flaming others and being overly rude to new members. From what I took out of your post Flamesy, you joined Gamerenders when it was one thing and somewhere down the line you feel it has become something else. I can understand your frustration as I can tell you miss the "old" community and don't feel as if the site in general is headed in the right direction. To this, I would say that for better or for worse change is inevitable for people, companys, life and alas..... Forums. Admins and moderators will generaly go the way of the majority of there members if it fits into the realm of acceptable behavior. Can you blame them? If credits were not important to the majority of members then we woulden't even be discussing this topic at present. I think the fact is that the credit system is very important to the members and gives most a sence of worth and to a lesser extent... Accomplishment for creating and succesfully selling there work, renders or anything else they put time and effort into. The blame cannot fall to the admins here, these changes were not brought about by the staff but by popular demand from the mass population of this site as a whole. Perhaps changes should, would or could be made to alter how and when or even if credits are sold but that isen't for me to speculate or decide. Nor is it really a moderators job. Im here with my nose in it every day and sure, I see alot of flaming, heated tempers and alot of crazy, silly and flat out stupid auctions but if thats not your thing or the reason you are here then you can always just avoid the auction house all together and never need be bothered by it. I really hate buffy the vampire slayer, so guess what? I don't turn my television to that channel. We all have been guilty of lashing out a bit from time to time or breaking the rules in some small measure, members, mods, we are all real people at the end of the day and life isen't always as simple as 40 lines of text telling us how to act. Recognizing, the exception other than the rule is key to moderating and fair judgement and while im sure it isen't practiced one hundred percent of the time I think we have a great staff overall. Im sorry that you feel the way that you do, it is very obvious you are upset after reading your entire post. My suggestion would be to try to channel some of that into ways some of the things your so angry about can be "Fixed" or made better other than by way of a broad sword change the entire structure of a site that is obviously growing and where majority rules. Realize as well that when Gamerenders no longer profits from credits or accounts, they WILL be sold at other sites, ebay and other formats and somebody else will instead. If this is what the masses want there is usually a way to do it. Yep, I saved it Big Dave. Ever on the lookout for cencorship! And..... Stop calling me "Dude"
rofl dude, i hope you saved that post because i deleted the 2nd one... And now you have edited the previous 1
