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Kennedy
11-07-2007, 09:00 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3832038

An 18-year-old student opened fire in a Finnish high school Wednesday, killing seven students and the principal before turning the gun on himself, police said.

The teenager, who was not identified, shot himself in the head but survived for a time. He died at Toolo Hospital, chief doctor Eero Hirvensalo said.


The attack at Jokela High School in Tuusula, some 30 miles north of the capital, Helsinki, shocked the Nordic nation, where gun ownership is fairly common by European standards but deadly shootings are rare.

Finnish media reported that in 1989 a 14-year-old boy shot and killed two students, apparently for teasing him.

Police said at a news conference after the attack that the gunman in Wednesday's attack shot the victims five boys, two girls and the female principal with a .22-caliber pistol. About a dozen other people were injured as they tried to escape the school, police said.

"He was from an ordinary family," police chief Matti Tohkanen said about the gunman, who belonged to a gun club and got a license for the pistol Oct. 19. He did not have a previous criminal record, he said.

Finnish media said the shooter revealed his plans in a YouTube posting before the attack.

The video, titled "Jokela High School Massacre," showed a picture of a building by a lake that appeared to be the high school, along with two photos of a young man holding a handgun. The person who posted the video was identified in the user profile as an 18-year-old man from Finland. The posting was later removed.

The profile contained a text calling for a "revolution against the system."

Another YouTube video clip showed a young man clad in a dark jacket loading a clip into a handgun and firing several shots at an apple placed on the ground in a forested area. He smiled and waved to the camera at the end of the clip.

A third clip showed photos of what appeared to be same man posing with a gun and wearing a T-shirt with the text "Humanity is overrated."

Police said they would investigate any possible connection the gunman might have had to the video.

Terhi Vayrynen, 17, a student at the school told The Associated Press that her brother Henri Vayrynen, 13, and his classmates had witnessed the shooting of the principal outside the school through the classroom window.

She said the gunman then came into Henri Vayrynen's class shouting: "Revolution! Smash everything!"

When no one did anything, he shot the TV and the windows of the class room but did not fire at the students. The he ran out and down the corridor, Terhi Vayrynen said.

Kim Kiuru, a teacher at the school, said the principal announced over the public address system just before noon that all students should remain in their classrooms.

"After that I saw the gunman running with what appeared to be a small-caliber handgun in his hand through the doors toward me after which I escaped to the corridor downstairs and ran in the opposite direction," Kiuru told reporters.

Kiuru said he saw a woman's body as he fled the building.

"Then my pupils shouted at me out of the windows to ask what they should do and I told them to jump out of the windows ... and all my pupils were saved," Kiuru said.

More than 400 students, from 12 to 18, were enrolled at Jokela, officials said.

Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen described the situation as "extremely tragic," and declared Thursday a day of national mourning with flags to be flown half-staff.[/b]

This is honestly very tragic, especially that I am a Fin, Rest In Peace all those who died.

Trunks
11-08-2007, 04:28 AM
------ man , lame he tries te re-attempt most of the shootings. Lets be honest thats where it all comes from the ideas.

Hate it why these people cant just shoot theirself and let other people live in peace :|

Dior
11-08-2007, 05:09 AM
Been all over the news the last few days and it's very tragic indeed.
As they said in an interview with the city mayor (?) they couldn't believe something like this actually could happen in Finland.

xlink
11-08-2007, 05:46 AM
so what you're saying is that humans are by nature flawed and it's independent of location...
I'll agree.

Now why are we morning for 9 people who died from guns when we could mourn for the millions each year who die from treatable diseases?


EDIT: I came off a bit brash, things like this are never good I'm just trying to add another perspective

dementia
11-08-2007, 08:15 AM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.

Trunks
11-08-2007, 08:29 AM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

"only happens in america"

Truckin
11-08-2007, 08:46 AM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]


You read my mind..

ferret
11-08-2007, 10:25 AM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

Probably not the best place, but ROFL.

As for the shooting:

It sucks. "Revolution" and "f*ck the system" are hardly reasons to waste eight innocent people. RIP to the victims.

Mathiasa
11-08-2007, 10:50 AM
I saw this on the Swedish news yesterday.
it sucks.

veng3nce
11-08-2007, 11:17 AM
its quite sick ... cant beleave these kids .. theres no need for it

becks
11-08-2007, 11:25 AM
very sad never heard anything about it before this.

ShneakySquirrel
11-08-2007, 11:29 AM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]
DUDE!!! You ------ing said EXACTLY what I was going to say... however you woke up a bit earlier than I did ;) . Or didn't go to sleep...

Kennedy
11-08-2007, 03:26 PM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

Yeah it is quite ------ing obvious but the thing is that a comment like that isn't needed in this thread.

Dior
11-08-2007, 03:45 PM
What should he say? There's not really anything to discuss more than saying "that sucks".

dementia
11-08-2007, 04:42 PM
<{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4016864)This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

Yeah it is quite ------ing obvious but the thing is that a comment like that isn't needed in this thread.
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Oh really? Seems like it happens in every single topic started about a tragedy in America. Get over yourself, your topic isn't higher than anyone elses here, and my response is going to be a response regardless of whether or not I stated it, or someone else did.

ShneakySquirrel
11-08-2007, 04:54 PM
Yup, because that was the first thing that popped into my head, shortly after "That sucks"

Kennedy
11-08-2007, 07:33 PM
<{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4017122)This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

Yeah it is quite ------ing obvious but the thing is that a comment like that isn't needed in this thread.
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Oh really? Seems like it happens in every single topic started about a tragedy in America. Get over yourself, your topic isn't higher than anyone elses here, and my response is going to be a response regardless of whether or not I stated it, or someone else did.
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Sorry bout that
I was just really pissed of at the moment and somehow the post you made seemed wrong, no harm feelings k?

AG Mountaineer
11-08-2007, 07:42 PM
<{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4017122)This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

Yeah it is quite ------ing obvious but the thing is that a comment like that isn't needed in this thread.
[/b]
Oh really? Seems like it happens in every single topic started about a tragedy in America. Get over yourself, your topic isn't higher than anyone elses here, and my response is going to be a response regardless of whether or not I stated it, or someone else did.
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I'd agree there. People all the time come into these threads when it occurs in the United States, and crityicizes our country. It is not the country, it is those who live in it. Sadly, not everyone is in the correct state of mind to live in peace. God bless those who died, and not's let this turn into a flame.

XxCarbinexX
11-09-2007, 12:12 AM
This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]
I feel bad for all Finnish people. Half of them are either ready to go postal or are suicidal!

dementia
11-09-2007, 01:31 AM
<{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4017203)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dementia @ Nov 8 2007, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (index.php?act=findpost&pid=4016864)<div class='quotemain'>This is why I live in America, those foreigners are so weird!

Lets see who gets what I'm doing first.[/b]

Yeah it is quite ------ing obvious but the thing is that a comment like that isn't needed in this thread.
[/b]
Oh really? Seems like it happens in every single topic started about a tragedy in America. Get over yourself, your topic isn't higher than anyone elses here, and my response is going to be a response regardless of whether or not I stated it, or someone else did.
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Sorry bout that
I was just really pissed of at the moment and somehow the post you made seemed wrong, no harm feelings k?
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kk, no hard feelings =)

.ArctiC.
11-09-2007, 01:36 AM
kinda get the feeling that his using the "f*uck the system" line just an excuse for shooting innocent people.

.Sinister
11-09-2007, 10:38 AM
Pathetic i tell you, seriously why waste lives over your own life. Fair enough people haven't got it made in this world by why hurt the innocent. Its ------ed up too many mental people and crack heads around these days. Watch one day these topics that we post on forums probably wont mean nothing as soon it will be like a everyday thing. ---- is getting out of hands in this world these days.

Naviero
11-09-2007, 11:41 AM
It sucks that this happened, but this seems to be happening more often these days. It's happened two or three times in the past year.

Element
11-09-2007, 03:11 PM
It's one of the things that I am sure wont be the last one. As it always has been, there have been bullies, the popular kids, and all the losers and nerds in schools that there will always be people picking on people. My dad when he was in school way back when told me that he picked on a few, and a few picked on him. After the first one I'm sure that this one in Finland wont be the last, as sad as it is to say.

verbal backflip
11-10-2007, 07:05 AM
What a ------ing nazi that guy is. At least he got what he deserved and suffered, maybe he then knew what the others felt.

Dumbass.

Atleast we don't have this back at Portugal :D Lol, just joking ;DD

And should all the innocent students RIP